Curse

Masterr · Aug 24, 2007, 02:18 PM // 14:18

i agree, stop making GW a grinding game, also i wont get all titles in all my chars and all the armors for all my chars.

w00t! · Aug 24, 2007, 02:53 PM // 14:53

/signed

First, I'm all for gold sinks in GW, but the mini-pet implementation in GW doesn't make sense. One reason; supply and demand.

I am all for making weapons, shields (yes shields!), and certain other items character-based, as the supply of those items aren't restricted. Since the supply of mini-pets is naturally restricted, making them character-based does not make economic sense. The price of mini-pets will naturally rise (restricted supply), so the only way to obtain them will be to grind or eBay gold. This is an unintended consequence, and goes completely against Anet's stated purpose of GW.

Making minis account-based makes perfect sense, and seems to be an oversight on Anet's part. I know that it will be more difficult to program, but the programmers who are capable of doing such wonders with GW are certainly capable of pulling this off.

Etta · Aug 24, 2007, 02:56 PM // 14:56

how can you say no to this?

/signed x 1000

Mitchel · Aug 24, 2007, 03:01 PM // 15:01

/signed for above reasons.

jkyarr · Aug 24, 2007, 04:21 PM // 16:21

Mini-pets are not a compelling enough reason for me to agree to this petition.

Everything else is more or less character-based already. And please consider this from Gaile

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0&postcount=12

Quote:

Originally Posted by hallomik

Originally Posted by hallomik
Here's what I don't understand.

If the system worked the way people on this thread thought it was going to work, any character on an account with one character who got a tough-to-get title like LDoA would get that title?

That would mean, you could create a character, get a run to HoM, get the LDoA title for that character, and then "bequeath" that title to a character in GW2. That would mean there would be an unending supply of items left to decendants based on a one-time achievement of a title. That just does not make sense.

I was just writing this, so I'll go ahead and add my comments, although I think hallomik said the same thing more clearly:

I'm confused. I think that some of you are suggesting that everything you acquire, on any character, should apply to all characters in Guild Wars 2. Is that right?

If so, why?

When I get most titles on my GW character, I get the title on... my GW character. Not all my chars; just one.

So why would you expect that it would be merged, and that every char you make in the next game would benefit from what perhaps 6 or 8 or even more characters acquired in the current generation?

Would you suggest that if a player has five chars, and each has explored 20% of Tyria, then every char in GW2 should have an explorer title, because after all, 20% x 5 = 100%?

Please help me understand why some of you are making such dramatic, negative comments about this. I don't get to add up my bowling scores until I have a perfect 300. (Dang, that'd only take me 5 games if I could! ) But by the same token, I don't expect my Rangers, Necromancers, Elementalists, Warriors, etc., to be able to contribute to every profession I make in the future -- it just doesn't make sense!

The only concern of mine is actually Hero weapons. Will they become customized to the player character to whom the hero "belongs" if we put them in the HoM? Having to provide a full repetiore of weapons for each Hero is much more taxing than swapping weapons around between duplicate heroes with the same player account or even duplicate professions with a single character's hero set.

thunderai · Aug 24, 2007, 04:43 PM // 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkyarr

Mini-pets are not a compelling enough reason for me to agree to this petition.

Everything else is more or less character-based already. And please consider this from Gaile

The only concern of mine is actually Hero weapons. Will they become customized to the player character to whom the hero "belongs" if we put them in the HoM? Having to provide a full repetiore of weapons for each Hero is much more taxing than swapping weapons around between duplicate heroes with the same player account or even duplicate professions with a single character's hero set.

Gailes problem is she is loooony. No one said I want to take 10 toons with 10% explored so I get 100% exlored, thats an insane request and is rightfully stupid. The request is simply to allow the HoM to hold all PLAYER titles rather then seperate it out per toon.

Now none of this really matters if titles like cartographer wont be added to the HoM.

In all I think the HoM is a complete wast of programming time now. I thought it would be the best thing ever, it isn't. There are no PvE titles stored, The armor display is pathedic, and the rest is ok.

I agree with the limit on displaying heros, the problem being that the heros displayed have their initial armor on and not the armor which earned them the spot.

Good job anet...you stink.

Cowboy · Aug 24, 2007, 05:58 PM // 17:58

/signed

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vergerefosh · Aug 24, 2007, 06:53 PM // 18:53

/signed, Other wise my characters monuments will look so cool won't they? 1 set of armour, no weapons, 1 mini, possibly an animal companion and no titles.

Aethon · Aug 24, 2007, 07:12 PM // 19:12

/signed

I never liked character-based grind in any form, but it just keeps popping up. I finished doing these things on one character, what makes them think that I wouldn't be able to do the same on every other character, given enough time? My time is worth more than this.

=HT=Ingram · Aug 24, 2007, 07:48 PM // 19:48

/signed

As to titles. I only care about titles that cross all Characters on the account... of which there are several... Sure fine some Titles may be character based, OK fine. no problem. but common. Minis? You know what that tells me honestly? HoM don't bother with it.. Its 100% a waste. Am I sorry I did it with 10 minis already. yea. I knew it was a mistake to do them all... At least I had the foresight to do it on my Primary character that I know I will never give up on. But lets face it, the other 11 characters on my account I could care less about... It does not lessen their achievements, but I just do not play the game to grind up a dozen characters to all be equal...

In GW2 we should take the 1 character from GW1 that has all you want to show off and there you go. but in GW1 the fundamentals that have been established already should not be forced to change just cause of an inconvenience in GW2 which is a long way off at this point and the current players just do not care till then.

I just want my minis to work on my account. I don't care where they are placed. If I could take them back off the HoM I would in 1 sec flat. it was the biggest mistake I ever did as far as I am concerned. And that's from a guy that mistakenly deleted a character with about a dozen ecto and 80,000 gold on it once a long time ago. Yea... Minis should have ALWAYS been customized to the Account. OR Always customized to the character... their functionality was equivalent to customized to account because all your accounts characters could use them from the beginning, so that should not change. You have to sacrifice storage for them across all characters anyway, So why not just make the monument for the 1 character fine, but the mini should be functionally the same as it was originally. But not allowed to be traded to another account.

Farrell-Zander · Aug 24, 2007, 08:30 PM // 20:30

/signed

I have 10 characters and getting titles for them all would be so boring....

Snow Bunny · Aug 24, 2007, 09:31 PM // 21:31

Lame.

/signed

Mangione · Aug 24, 2007, 10:21 PM // 22:21

/signed.

Please, if you want to make minipets customized, make them account based, not character based.

razor39999 · Aug 24, 2007, 11:11 PM // 23:11

/signed
Completely agree with the author of the thread.

Solas · Aug 24, 2007, 11:57 PM // 23:57

/signed not sure if i signed it already, im sleepy....

but yeah,
HoM should be account based overall imo.

armour: choose the 10 sets your'd like displayed in your HoM From any of your existing chars,and the model is of that of your char, ie if male char male model.

Minis: account based cusomised, same should be account based

Titles: Account based, it shows your maxed titles only on account wide

weapons: Account based pick the weapons that you have currently unlcoked( ie cusomised)

a rough idea,

maybe these itmes in HoM will affect your GW2 account and not char, ie as many cusomized special minis you want, same title,same special item if any.

Cherrie · Aug 25, 2007, 12:09 AM // 00:09

/signed

HoM was a good idea, but it's executed terribly, it's just so flawed in design. And I don't mean those temporary bugs.

Customizing Minis to character taht sets them in HoM? Biggest joke so far....

Showing only one character's achievements? I can do it in town in 5 mins, switching armors, heroes in party etc. Excuse me, but it sux.

...and so on.

/signed

Eldin · Aug 25, 2007, 12:13 AM // 00:13

/signed

Never will I accomplish a ridiculous amount of titles on one character. I'd rather have a collective.

Gaile, please please please read this:
Our decisions on what the HoM should be based on COMPLETELY OPERATE AND REVOLVE AROUND THIS CONCEPT:

In GW2, do you get to choose which character to inherit things from (I guess so)? If so, can that same GW1 character's things be inherited more than once, or is it like, one char can inherit my ranger's things, and then, that's it, case closed? And if THAT is the case, then if I delete said char, will I be able to inherit from my ranger again?

kiloae · Aug 25, 2007, 12:17 AM // 00:17

/signed

and change the armors to our actual sets

FelixTheBang · Aug 25, 2007, 12:21 AM // 00:21

I totally agree with Gaile, I would never expect that achievements on 1 character should be 'transferable' to ALL my GW2 characters.

As for minis, I couldn't care less, I don't think they have a place in HoM, owning a rare mini isn't an achievement when it is quite likely you just got a lucky bithday pressie.

What REALLY annoys me is that the Title monument only seems to have spots for the major PvP titles! I have maxed many PvE titles since the HoM was announced and now it seems I can't even register my KoaBD title track in the HoM... That sucks

Why are stupid things like minis, that can be obtained through no effort (recieved as a gift) transferrable to GW2 when PvE titles that require a huge effort not?

Mangione · Aug 25, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by FelixTheBang

What REALLY annoys me is that the Title monument only seems to have spots for the major PvP titles! I have maxed many PvE titles since the HoM was announced and now it seems I can't even register my KoaBD title track in the HoM... That sucks

Why are stupid things like minis, that can be obtained through no effort (recieved as a gift) transferrable to GW2 when PvE titles that require a huge effort not?

Same here.

What about vanquisher titles, legendary cartographer and the likes?